Jeff Jones has just shown this new protosample on his blog - http://jonesbikes.com/blog/?p=796 - The chainstay area has similar thoughts to what I did on (one side) of the new Ragley frames. Always good to see others using similar (new-ish/different) methods - which validate what I'm doing here. I still can't remember where I saw the design first - I think it might have been on a Raleigh titanium trials frame. But it's been through so many iterations in my head (see the Alloy 456 from a few days ago) that I can't think straight.